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02 December 2007 @ 10:00 pm
Hybrid voice over from the extended Razor version  
I know wisteria_ is working on the deleted scenes but I thought this was interesting.

The hybrid says this in voice over as Kendra, Kara and team enter with the nuke. Obvious season 4 hints.



"Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening.
Struggling with the knowledge of their true selves.
The pain of revelation bringing new clarity.
And in the midst of confusion, he will find her,
enemies brought together by impossible longing,
enemies now joined as one.

The way forward, at once unthinkable, yet inevitable.

And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light,
hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering.

I can see them all.

The seven, now six, self-described machines who believe themselves without sin.

But in time, it is sin that will consume them.

They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of the one splintering into the many.

And then they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel.

Not an end, but a beginning."

And in the midst of confusion, he will find her,
enemies brought together by impossible longing,
enemies now joined as one.


So who is the "her"... could be referring to Kara.

Hmm... how about Caprica? And the him in question is Sam? It would go with the other spoilers floating around.
 
 
 
My Mama Didn't Raise Me to Be a Fishwife: BSG - A/R - Dreams of Himnnaylime on December 3rd, 2007 03:15 am (UTC)
as colored by my perspective, the first thing I thought about was Adama/Roslin and how they'd initially butted heads but came together under a common cause.

Of course, it could also refer to any Cylon/Human pairing -- Helo/Sharon, Gaius/Six.
gammaraychick on December 3rd, 2007 03:17 am (UTC)
Leoben and Kara perhaps?
an east end girllife_on_queen on December 3rd, 2007 06:33 pm (UTC)
That was my thought, too. The other possibility is that the fifth really is Baltar and the 'her' is this new Six they've been talking about.
catku: two facescatku on December 3rd, 2007 03:34 am (UTC)
This timeline is before they boxed #3- so the reference to "the seven, now six" is confusing.

"gathered on the wings of an angel" is a thinly veiled reference to Kara and her viper leading them to the promise land.

the "her" could be Kara/Leoben or Caprica/Sam .
Nicole Anell: baltar/sixnicole_anell on December 3rd, 2007 03:47 am (UTC)
*BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE*

I'm fascinated by the whole "hungering for redemption" part. Who could that refer to? Please make it not be Baltar. Please.

Also, I thought "wings of an angel" was extremely cheesy the first time I looked at it, but then I realized it could involve Kara or Six. Although I'm not sure what would make the Hybrid change his tune from angel!Kara to HARBINGER OF DEATH OMG RUN in the span of five minutes, so maybe just Six.

zomg I want Caprica/Anders to happen so badly, I don't know what's wrong with me :)
sjwasheresjwashere on December 3rd, 2007 07:04 am (UTC)
I'm more interested in this part:

And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light,
hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering.


The only two I can think of is Baltar or Laura.
Kat: Kendraarcherstar on December 3rd, 2007 07:33 am (UTC)
I thought of Kendra, actually. If this occurs before she goes kablooey, then it could refer to her.
pennyfeline: Cottle - Cylon Godpennyfeline on December 3rd, 2007 11:14 am (UTC)
My initial thoughts were Baltar or Laura, too. But it could as well be Kara (she's constantly suffering :P ) or Adama (from what I hear he will have a hard time in season 4 and you know how much he enjoys his guilt trips, anyway).

"claw towards the light" however seems to fit Baltar and Laura more. Baltar looked a little lost when we last saw him and he might not enjoy his new cult as much as you expect him to and try to find redemption. Laura on the other hand is obviously trying to come to terms with her dying (Nana Visitor episode).

The most logical "Final Fifth" is Baltar, but that would probably be too easy, so Laura would be my guess despite the fact that RDM said neither she nor Adama are Cylons, and I'd hate her to be one.

OMGs, Cottle is not going to get lung cancer, is he? :o

And in the midst of confusion, he will find her,

As for this part, my first thought (after the realization that no tv script would write such an important storyarc for two middle aged people - SADLY, because it would fit) was Sam finds Six. It would work in a "Final Five gets close to one of the Seven" sense, and maybe exactly that is needed to bring all of them together in the end. Plus, it would explain while they try to hook up Sam and Six, which seems a little forced if it doesn't serve a purpose.

And then they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel.

My first thought was that "angel" decribed Hera. It doesn't really fit any other character we know other than the head people maybe. Oh wait, who's protecting the fleet with her wings from day one? Makes sense in my world, though I have the nasty feeling they won't make Roslin look too good. Another candidate would be Kara - angelic being she might be now...? Hmmm...

Anyway, thanks for posting, this is really interesting!!!
weissmanweissman on December 3rd, 2007 01:33 pm (UTC)
"Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening.
Struggling with the knowledge of their true selves.
The pain of revelation bringing new clarity.
And in the midst of confusion, he will find her,
enemies brought together by impossible longing,
enemies now joined as one.'

Anybody for Boomer and the Chief. I think Boomer is the one that causes the Cylon Civil war
pennyfeline: Cottle - Cylon Godpennyfeline on December 3rd, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
I always liked Boomer & the Chief and Cally's death would make it possible. Though Boomer was very much ignored this past season, so I'm not sure they would make her a main player now.

I assumed D'anna would cause the Cylon Civil war.
weissmanweissman on December 10th, 2007 03:11 pm (UTC)
Both D'anna and Boomer have reasons to do it, But I think Boomer hates the Cylons more then D'anna. The Cylons tsole from her everything she ever wanted or had.
Nicole Anell: battlestar galacticanicole_anell on December 3rd, 2007 05:14 pm (UTC)
I was considering that too - there's so many possibilities! I was just reading up on the whole Centurion-rebellion/Cylons-turning-against-each-other thing, and it seems to happen fairly early, possibly before D'Anna even comes back (it does say "now six" even right there). So I think Boomer could definitely have something to do with it.
weissmanweissman on December 3rd, 2007 10:15 pm (UTC)
In the upcoming scenes we Cavil look at Boomer and say "what have you done" I think Boomer removed the restraints on the Centurions. I think Boomer then heads for the Glactica. (Hey I can dream)

Think about it enemies and impossible longing, if that dosn't describe Boomer and the Chief what does.

Bob
weissmanweissman on December 10th, 2007 03:15 pm (UTC)
And teh Cylon Centurion rebellion facilitates Boomer and the Chief getting together
Angeliquegleckia on September 11th, 2008 08:48 pm (UTC)
I'm hoping it's Boomer and the Chief. Hoping really hard.
weissmanweissman on September 15th, 2008 11:48 am (UTC)
I agree with that, but nobody listened to me.
starryniteynitestarryniteynite on December 3rd, 2007 07:31 pm (UTC)
I love this crazy show.

And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light,
hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering.


This sounds a lot like Baltar, except I can't actually see him hungering for redemption. He's always seemed so detached from his wrongdoings, like he sees himself as a victim of circumstance--I guess I just don't see him suddenly turning around and wanting to be forgiven. Plus, given the torture he endured by the cylons and the humans, I'm not sure what additional suffering he would need to undergo... plus, as said above, Baltar being the fifth is too easy. I'm a bit biased here, tho, partially because I think he'd be thrilled to be a cylon, and that's just not a story I'd want to see.

So maybe the question isn't who needs redemption, but who thinks themselves in need of redemption?
Nicole Anell: baltar/sixnicole_anell on December 3rd, 2007 11:51 pm (UTC)
I agree with all this. Too easy for him to be a Cylon! (Also, *seriously*, if I have to see Baltar get tortured anymore I'll have to send him a fruit basket or something.) But I'm having a hard time seeing who else that line would fit.

Taking the "who thinks they need redemption" part into it, I wouldn't mind if it was Gaeta.... But I have a feeling that the Last Cylon reveal has to be someone really important, i.e. in the main cast, because they've built it up too much. :/
noybusiness on March 14th, 2008 08:36 pm (UTC)
I think either the "he" or the "her" must be one of the Final Four, since that line comes right after the part about their awakening and before the line about the Fifth.